In the following interview, Jerry talks
with Bill Ryan, who less that two months ago, knew nothing about a
remarkable, above
top
secret US government project, code named Serpo. Coincidentally, he
was on an e-mail mailing list that had several Defense Department
Officials, Black Project Managers and UFO Researchers which received
a dispatch from "Anonymous".
This undisclosed person, who is still active in UFO related secret
projects, wrote about the gradual release of confidential documents
pertaining to a top secret exchange program between the Ebens,
Extraterrestrial Entities (ETEs) from the planet Serpo, located in
the Zeta Retuiculi star system and shown in the star catalogue image
at left, which is some 39 light years from Earth.
Several Ebens and twelve US military
personnel were involved in an exchange program between Earth and
Serpo, between the years 1965-78.
This undisclosed person, who is still active in UFO related secret
projects, wrote about the gradual release of confidential documents
pertaining to a top secret exchange program between the Ebens,
Extraterrestrial Entities (ETEs) from the planet Serpo, located in
the Zeta Retuiculi star system, which is some 39 light years from
Earth.
Several Ebens and twelve US military
personnel were involved in an exchange program between Earth and Serpo, between the years 1965-78.
Bill Ryan
At the request of the recipient of this information, Victor
Martinez, Ryan quickly set up a public service based
website, to disseminate already
provided and promised information, including photos of human beings
associating with the inhabitants of the Planet Serpo.
In a wide ranging discussion, Ryan tells
Jerry about the climate, flora and animals of this planet, as well
as the history, culture and lifestyles of the intelligent beings,
the Ebens, living on the planet.
Details never before revealed will
astound you, the listener, with vivid descriptions given of
encounters between American military personnel and the Ebens on
their current home planet.
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Listen to the
interview here.
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More Information on
Project Serpo
An email sent to Bill Ryan on 12/16/05:
Subject: A lawyer’s suggestion
documenting why the Project Serpo disclosure may be genuine
Dear All –
I found this intriguing, lucid and intelligent post on
the Above Top Secret Forum and
is worth reading carefully in its entirety.
The writer posts under the moniker “Centrist” and is a
patent attorney by profession. He also holds a Master’s Degree
in Chemical Engineering from Rensselar Polytechnic Institute. He
can be contacted at
waynej@speakerbuilder.net and
I’ve included him on the cc list of this message.
Best wishes,
Bill
It’s very easy to get caught in the
allure of these stories. They’re interesting, sometimes
well-crafted, and (most of all) I think that many of us want to
believe that they’re true.
This case is particularly compelling because, even if it is a hoax,
it is well-planned in that it pulls together elements from other
stories quite well and makes it all fit together like a nice puzzle.
For example, the detail about
the SOM-1.01 being an annex to the
"Red Book" makes you believe that this "Red Book" exists and may
actually be in Anon’s possession, given that various Ufologists
believe that the SOM is authentic.
Further, from an "is this possible" perspective, I offer you this
brief analysis which (at least to me) suggests that disclosure may
actually be possible. Not likely, but possible...
Here we go.
A theory suggesting why the Project Serpo Disclosuremay be
genuine.
A little known fact is that in
October 2000, it was five-years from the effective date of
Executive Order 12958 (begins on page 19 of the linked file
- below image) -- signed by Bill
Clinton and mandating the automatic declassification of all
government documents over 25 years old UNLESS the agency which
classified the document asserts that certain documents are
exempt from disclosure.
President Clinton signed EO
12958 on April 17, 1995. The effective date of the Order was set
to be 180 days from the date which he issued the order. That
means that certain documents were declassified, by Presidential
proclamation, early in October, 2000. Thereafter, many documents
because declassified by proclamation on the 25th anniversary of
their classification.
Of course, during that 180 days between the signing of the order
and its effective date, each agency head was supposed to inform
the president’s office of any exempted file "series". This is
done through the Assistant to the President for National
Security Affairs. Interestingly, it was
Eisenhower (who was
President at the time much of Project Serpo is alleged to have
occurred) that created this position.
Stephen J. Hadley now serves in
that capacity for President Bush, taking over for Condoleeza
Rice earlier this year.
The staff of the National Security Council is de jure an element
of the Executive Office of the President, but de facto is a
central element of the White House staff itself. President
Eisenhower created a new position to head that staff: the
assistant to the President for national security affairs; every
President since has continued that office and strengthened the
staff. The twenty senior-most NSC officers have presidential
titles and rank; the total staff now numbers nearly two hundred,
many of them detailees from
State, Defense, and CIA.
So... just this year, the Project Serpo documents, if true as
alleged, turned 25 years old and became the subject of automatic
declassification. In other words, unless the Head of the DIA
(the presumed holder of these documents) has identified the
Project Serpo files (assuming they exist) as being exempt from
declassification, then they have already been automatically
declassified.
In other words,
Lowell E. Jacoby, the Director
of the DIA, had to identify the files that were exempted from
automatic declassification and then make a statement to the
National Security Council explaining that the exempted material
fell under an exemption to EO 12958 pursuant to section. 3.4.
Information that meets the following conditions may be exempted
from declassification, unless the President orders otherwise
(the president can order that the material be declassified):
(1) reveal the identity
of a confidential human source, or reveal information about
the application of an intelligence source or method, or
reveal the identity of a human intelligence source when the
unauthorized disclosure of that source would clearly and
demonstrably damage the national security interests of the
United States
(2) reveal information that would assist in the
development or use of weapons of mass destruction
(3) reveal information that would impair U.S.
cryptologic systems or activities
(4) reveal information that would impair the
application of state of the art technology within a U.S.
weapon system
(5) reveal actual U.S. military war plans that remain
in effect
(6) reveal information that would seriously and
demonstrably impair relations between the United States and
a foreign government, or seriously and demonstrably
undermine ongoing diplomatic activities of the United States
(7) reveal information that would clearly and
demonstrably impair the current ability of United States
Government officials to protect the President, Vice
President, and other officials for whom protection services,
in the interest of national security, are authorized
(8) reveal information that would seriously and
demonstrably impair current national security emergency
preparedness plans
(9) violate a statute, treaty, or international
agreement
Now, here’s where we get to the very
interesting part. First, lets assume that the DIA
exempted all of their UFO/EBE/ET related information from
declassification. Most likely, Condoleeza Rice, the
predecessor to Stephen Hadley as the head of the NSC, would have
signed-off on this, most likely without ever knowing what she
signed off on. Then again, maybe not.
Stephen Hadley, however, is also an interesting
character. First of all, he’s a career intelligence officer
going back to the Ford Administration (I included a link to his
bio so you would read it, so you should have known this
already). Also, Hadley worked for Scowcroft’s firm in D.C. for
a few years and
Scowcroft was the National Security
Advisor to President Ford and seems to have had a
hand in selecting members of the NSC for later Presidents (such
has his selection of Condi Rice). Not surprisingly,
General Scowcroft is often mentioned as
the present likely head of MJ-12 or its successor,
PI-40.
What if General Scowcroft, being of aging years and perhaps not
seeing the harm in the truth being known, has decided to pledge
his full "I won’t interfere" (as much cooperation as you could
expect) to these people because he knows them and knows that
it’s very likely that if the NSC fights them, this will get very
public, very fast. This administration does NOT need another
scandal. But more on this aspect later, too.
Ok, so what is it that makes me believe that the same old cast
of characters is any more likely to permit disclosure now than
at any other time in the past? Well, when I came across the
following, it got me thinking.
Sec. 3.1. Definitions. For
purposes of this order:
(a)
"Declassification" means the authorized change in the
status of information from classified information to
unclassified information (b) "Automatic declassification" means the
declassification of information based solely upon:
(1) the
occurrence of a specific date or event as determined
by the original classification authority
(2) the
expiration of a maximum time frame for duration of
classification established under this order
(c) "Declassification
authority" means:
(1) the official
who authorized the original classification, if that
official is still serving in the same position
(2) the
originator’s current successor in function (3) a supervisory official of either (4) officials delegated declassification
authority in writing by the agency head or the
senior agency official
Now, let’s refer back to what
Anon has told us -- that he is part of a group of former DIA
officers. That they are in possession of the debriefing
manual ("Red Book") from a classified government project.
And that Project was formally closed 25 years ago.
Let’s take this one step further. Let’s guess that at least
one member of Anon’s group is lawfully in possession of this
material, because he was the officer that originally
classified the Project. If that’s the case, then this person
has the authority under EO 12958 to declassify the
information. That would be consistent with Anon’s statement
that they are trying to release the information with
official "sanction". This may also mean that they are in
contact with their successors (people they probably trained
or selected for their jobs) and those people have agreed not
to attempt to pursue the exemption of this material,
provided that it is properly purged of material which,
genuinely, should remain classified.
Sec. 1.5. Classification Categories.
Information may not be
considered for classification unless it concerns:
(a) military
plans, weapons systems, or operations
(b) foreign
government information
(c) intelligence
activities (including special activities),
intelligence sources or methods, or cryptology
(d) foreign
relations or foreign activities of the United
States, including confidential sources
(e) scientific,
technological, or economic matters relating to the
national security
(f) United States
Government programs for safeguarding nuclear
materials or facilities
(g)
vulnerabilities or capabilities of systems,
installations, projects or plans relating to the
national security
Ok, so going back to the present
administration and whether the current NSC (Stephen Hadley) will
authorize the release of this information. That’s the wildcard. I
don’t see it happening, but here’s what I think may be the facts...
-- Anon’s group has banded together
for security. One old guy can be easily explained away when he
passes on in his sleep. But six, or more, old guys who have
banded together and are keeping records of their discussions?
They’ve made some of these discussions public? AND they can at
least make the case that they have some authority to contest the
continued classification of this material? That might be harder.
-- I also suggest that these people were, in fact, highly placed DIA officers. So well connected were they that they were
entrusted with stewardship of this highly-secret information.
Respect and connection of this level would dictate that the
current administration would find it very difficult and highly
embarrassing if anything untowardly came of these people. In
fact, many of the aging leaders of the military and intelligence
communities would probably be more likely to "rat out" the
administration than their old colleague.
-- From the "PR” side, these guys are probably savvy and told
their predecessors that this can be done in a way that 1)
there’s no scandal for this administration (although that pesky
democratic administration that ordered the cover-up may leave a
black mark on the democratic party! Ha!); and, lets face it, "W"
will go along with any plan that gets his fanny off the fire for
Iraq, Katrina, Scooter Libby, and whatever else he’s porked up
lately.
Yes... this is "thin". Anorexic,
perhaps? I know. But look carefully at the facts, the law, and the
dates. It all comes together with many exciting consistencies.