Sarah: “It’s very hard to imagine how the world would select
one leadership. It sounds like something that is hundreds of years
in the future – if ever.”
Dr. Neruda: “I understand your conclusion, but what seems
implausible today can rapidly evolve if the proper conditions are
created. This is precisely what
the Incunabula are
focused on above all else. They realize that this may not take place
until the year 2040 or even later, but they are convinced that
consolidation of power – at a global level – is necessary in order
to prevent planetary destruction or what we talked about earlier as
Armageddon.”
Sarah: “What do you mean by planetary destruction?”
Dr. Neruda: “There are many decay forces that can take hold of
a planet and cause its decline as a supportive living environment.
In our interactions with extraterrestrials, this is a common theme
that is expressed because this condition frequently accompanies the
rise of post-modern civilizations.
“Human populations fragment across a planet, developing their unique
cultures, language, economic systems, and state identities. Certain
states have the good fortune of natural resources and some do not.
As these natural resources of the planet are converted into
commercial advantage, some states flourish economically and some
flounder.
“As the stronger states begin to dominate the weaker, military forces
and weapons are created. Applied technology becomes the ultimate
weapon. If multiple super powers are allowed to develop they can
bring destruction to the human populations of the planet. If
population densities reach a critical level, it can have the same
devastating effects.
“The human residents increasingly bring the planet under pressure. If
left unchecked, the planet can reach a critical stage of destruction
whereby human populations no longer find the planet a suitable
habitat.”
Sarah: “So you’re saying that the whole reason the Incunabula
are engineering the globalization of earth is because they want to
save earth from destruction?”
Dr. Neruda: “I will put it this way. The leaders of
the
Incunabula are very clear about the threats that earth will
undergo in the 21st century. They believe their orchestration of
human events better serves the human population than to leave it to
the forces of competitive politics. They genuinely believe that the
self-interests of the states will prevent a consolidation of global
power.”
Sarah: “Remind me again, why is this consolidation, as you put
it, so critical to our survival?”
Dr. Neruda: “Because the threats that will confront the human
population in the 21st century will be global issues – whether they
are intractable recessions, dwindling oil supplies, food
distribution, overpopulation, pollution, nuclear fallout, or
extraterrestrial visitations, they will require a global,
coordinated response. Unless the nations of the world are united,
they will respond too slowly to the threats, and the decay forces
will have such traction that they may be impossible to reverse.”
Sarah: “But isn’t this why the United Nations was formed? To
deal with these very issues?”
Dr. Neruda: “The United Nations is a prototype that
the
Incunabula
designed to serve as an experiment to test the format for a world
government. It was never considered to be the format for
consolidation.
“The issues of which I’m speaking of are not confronted in
the
United Nations, even if they’re discussed and debated.
Resolutions are designed to help remedy the problems, but ultimately
it depends upon the will of the individual state to implement,
monitor, report, analyze results, and make adjustments, and this is
not enforced in any reasonable manner. A world government, to be
effective, will require the ability to enforce and adjust
resolutions based on sound analysis. Otherwise these threats will
arise and the world’s people will not be able to speak with a single
voice, and more importantly, to act as a unified force against
threats.”
Sarah: “So this is the real end game of
the Incunabula?
What happened to the greedy elitists you disclosed earlier?”
Dr. Neruda: “Greed is alive and well within the ranks of
the Incunabula. But I’ve been talking about the planners of
the Incunabula
– the people who have the real grip on power. They don’t operate out
of greed. They have assets that are beyond the imagination of even
wealthy people. The acquisition of wealth is completed for them.
“The planners are concerned with securing humanity’s future, rather
than generating wealth for themselves.”
Sarah: “Okay, I understand you’re a sympathizer of
the
Incunabula, but what happened to the insatiable greed and
self interests? I know you mentioned this before.”
Dr. Neruda: “It exists, but
the Incunabula, like
any undisclosed organization is composed of multiple levels.
Operatives at the lower levels function within a set of rules and
norms that do not apply to the higher levels. In other words,
planners operate in a completely different organizational culture.
There is a sophistication and penetrating insight at the highest
levels that are not existent at the operations level.
“Planners within
the Incunabula are of a special
character and they feel a genuine responsibility to manage the
global affairs of humanity. They are most certainly better equipped
than heads of state to perform this function, and so they compose
and orchestrate world events instead of merely participating in
their unfolding.
“Over time, this role has made them very responsible and even
paternalistic to humanity as a whole. They’re not motivated by
greed, as are many others within the Incunabula and
the broader
Triad of Power, but they earnestly desire to save the
planet. They are like captains of a ship that know where the dangers
lie in the waters below and steer quietly away because they do not
want to go down with the ship.”
Sarah: “Okay, when you say these planners are anonymous, they
must have names and identities, right?”
Dr. Neruda: “No.
They operate outside of our system.
They cannot be tracked or identified. If they were to be hit by a
car and sent to a hospital, they would have diplomatic papers and
immunity. They would not have any record of existence outside of
this. And even if their identity were researched, it would lead to a
fabricated identity.”
Sarah: “What about family and relatives? I assume they were
born into families weren’t they?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes, they are human if that’s what you’re
implying. In most cases they’re groomed for their positions from an
early age. When they reach their early twenties they’re typically
brought into a direct mentorship with one of the Incunabula
planners and a very specific succession process is begun, which
usually lasts for about ten years. When the person is in his
mid-twenties his loyalty is tested in every conceivable manner over
the next five years. If he passes these tests, he is allowed to
preview the inner workings of the Incunabula. For
most, this is near their thirty-third birthday.
“At this point, a new identity is transferred to the person and they
die – quite literally – so far as their family and friends are
concerned. These deaths are arranged as covers for their new
identities and usually involve drowning or a fire accident, where
physical evidence is minimal. Prior to their arranged death,
insurance policies, if they exist, are cancelled to ensure minimal
investigation, and usually the death is staged during a trip to a
specific third-world country where police investigators are more
easily controlled.
“After their death event, the new planner is inducted in a secret
ceremony that I do not have details of. This inner circle becomes
the surrogate family for the new planner, and as they develop in
their skills, insights, intuition, and knowledge base, they develop
a very protective sensibility to the longstanding goals and
objectives of the Incunabula.”
Sarah: “Okay, but don’t they ultimately get married and have
children? How do they keep all of this separate? I mean how do you
go to work during the day and plan the future of the world and then
come home to dinner with the wife and kids?”
Dr. Neruda: “The planners are not married. It’s frowned on by
the Incunabula. It is one of the tests I mentioned that they
undergo in their mid-twenties.”
Sarah: “So it’s a priesthood?”
Dr. Neruda: “Not at all. No one is asked to be celibate, but
the role of the planner is all consuming. It requires minimal
distractions and commitments outside of their role as planners. It’s
a sacrifice and it heightens loyalty within the circle of planners.”
Sarah: “How do they find future planners if they don’t have
children?”
Dr. Neruda: “There are only five to eight planners at
any one time within the Incunabula. Five is the core
number, but there are usually two or three in training as well, but
these do not have voting powers. I mention this because it is a very
small number. Now, as to your question, candidates are identified
early on – usually when the person is a teenager.”
Sarah: “Is this as a result of them doing something noteworthy
or does it result from something else?”
Dr. Neruda: “They are, with rare exception, identified as a
result of their genetics.”
Sarah: “How is this done?”
Dr. Neruda: “It’s a result of extensive tracking of lineages
and genetic traits – including mutations. This is something that is
well understood by the Incunabula, and is given a
significant amount of time and investment. Genetic candidates are
identified and observed over a period of about three years before
any contact is made.”
Sarah: “How many, at any one time, are being tracked?”
Dr. Neruda: “About fifty in number, but out of every generation
only two or three are chosen.”
Sarah: “And those that aren’t chosen don’t even know they were
passed over?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes, that’s correct.”
Sarah: “How did the planners come about? I mean, how did they
rise to leadership?”
Dr. Neruda: “The Incunabula came to its power as
a result of the inefficiencies of the intelligence community to
gather information and position its strategic value relative to the
long-term crises that were forming on the horizon as they pertained
to the global economy.
“Shortly after the second World War, many nations, including the
United States, restructured or initiated their intelligence
organizations – particularly as it related to foreign policy
intelligence gathering.
“However, these organizations were still locked into the cold war
mentality and didn’t formally share intelligence as a result. The
Incunabula arose out of a need to consolidate global intelligence as
the best means to strategically maneuver the nation states to a
unified platform of commerce.”
Sarah: “So it was less about saving the world than it was about
making money, at least initially?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “But how did it all start? I mean who decided it would
be a good idea to create an organization that shared intelligence?”
Dr. Neruda: “If I gave you his name, it wouldn’t mean anything
to you. I assure you his name is not recorded in any directory or
reference material you could research.”
Sarah: “But there was only one person that started this
organization?”
Dr. Neruda: “No. There were five men that started it, but one
sparked the vision.”
Sarah: “As you’re talking I can’t help but think that these
planners sound a lot like the Hollywood portrayal of the
antichrist.
I mean don’t they wield a god-like power? And yet I haven’t heard
you say anything about a religious connection.”
Dr. Neruda: “I think the power they wield is directed at the
survival of humanity. They’re not evil in the sense that they’re
intent on destroying earth or humanity. They’re trying to guide
humanity to new systems before the old systems decay and create the
conditions that could bring annihilation to a substantial percentage
of the species.
“The choices of a fragmented state leadership or anarchy are not
suitable systems for modern, civilized man. They invariably lead to
imbalance and an inability to move from the old system to the new
system. Before the advent of long-range missile technology, nuclear,
biological and chemical weapons, this migration of the human race
from one system to another was not as critical. But the chasm that
exists between systems as complex as economies and energy, and in
light of modern weapon’s technology, the Incunabula
serve a vital role.”
Sarah: “Do the planners believe in God?”
Dr. Neruda: “I presume they believe in a higher power. Perhaps
they don’t call it God because of the religious overtones contained
in that word, but they certainly are aware of the unification force
because
Fifteen has acquainted the present generation of planners with
the LERM technology.”
Sarah: “That’s interesting. So they’ve all seen
LERM
and know how it works?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes, to your first question, but I don’t believe
they understand how it works at the micro-factual level.”
Sarah: “When someone – like the Incunabula planners
– interact with
LERM, assuming they didn’t believe in God beforehand,
in other words they’re an atheist, does it convert them?”
Dr. Neruda: “Again, it depends on the definition of God. If
they don’t believe in God as defined by a certain religion, and then
experience
LERM, they will not be persuaded by LERM
to believe in the religious version of God.”
Sarah: “I think I followed your explanation, but what I mean is
different. Assume they didn’t believe in any higher power, that the
universe is a big mechanical formation that became the way it did by
some evolutionary quirk. Would someone of this mindset become a
believer that there’s a force orchestrating things – even if you
don’t choose to call it God?”
Dr. Neruda: “Everyone who has undertaken the
LERM
experience concludes that a unifying intelligence pervades the
universe in every measurable dimension, and that this intelligence
is both personal and universal simultaneously, and because of this
feature, it is absolute, unique, singular.
“It’s a life-changing experience even if you already believe in God.
You are converted, as you put it, no matter how strong or weak your
previous beliefs in God were.”
Sarah: “It’s too bad you didn’t bring this technology with you
when you defected… I’d love to experience this.
So, back to
the Incunabula for a moment, it would make
me feel better if I knew they believed in God, and you’re saying
they do. Right?”
Dr. Neruda: “They believe in this unifying intelligence that I
spoke of, and I suspect that if you asked them, they would tell you
that they’re guided and perhaps even inspired by this intelligent
force. I don’t know if they would call it God or some other name.
But I trust they are believers in what some would call the
unification force.”
Sarah: “But it’s not like a religion to them?”
Dr. Neruda: “That’s correct. I know of nothing that would
suggest that
the Incunabula planners follow a specified
religion or desire to start one for that matter.
Sarah: “I don’t know why I’m asking all these question tonight,
but it’s fascinating to hear more details about the
Incunabula. I find it an irresistible topic.
“How is it that you know so much about such a secretive organization?”
Dr. Neruda: “As I mentioned previously, the ACIO
is a major contractor with the Incunabula and
receives funding and support from them, including shared
intelligence and mutual protection. As a result of this longstanding
relationship, directors at the ACIO have considerable
insight into the organization. Fifteen is not a planner, but
is held in very high esteem by the planners and meets with them
perhaps once or twice a year.
“Fifteen is well aware of the objectives of the planners, and
he shares his insights with members of the Labyrinth Group.
We also discuss how the Incunabula’s plans might bear on our
own.
The Incunabula is a factor in
the ACIO
plans, but they don’t dominate its agenda.”
Sarah: “How much do
the Incunabula know about the WingMakers and
the Ancient Arrow site?”
Dr. Neruda: “Very little, as far as I know.
Fifteen
begrudgingly provides some information to his direct agency
supervisor, but the NSA
is not aware of the Ancient Arrow site. There are two
operatives within the NSA that are aware of the
original artifact that was found, but Fifteen placed the
existence of this artifact in question due to its self-destruction.”
Sarah: “I assume from your response that whatever is shared
with the
NSA, at least in the case of the ACIO,
it is shared with
the Incunabula planners.”
Dr. Neruda: “No. There are information filters that reduce
clutter. Only certain information, as deemed necessary by Fifteen, is forwarded up the command chain to
the
Incunabula planners.”
Sarah: “The WingMakers are understood to be a force to
be reckoned with, correct?”
Dr. Neruda: “Do you mean by the Incunabula
planners?”
Sarah: “Yes.”
Dr. Neruda: “The planners know about
the Central Race
and the legend pertaining to their existence. There are several
important references to them in various books and prophecy, so even
if the ACIO didn’t share anything of their discovery
in New Mexico, the Incunabula – especially its
planners – are well aware of the Central Race.”
Sarah: “Why did
Fifteen choose not to share the
Ancient Arrow
discovery with either the NSA or the
Incunabula?”
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Dr. Neruda: “Fifteen designed
the Labyrinth Group
largely for security reasons. Information that pertains
to BST is held in the highest secrecy. As
I mentioned earlier, Fifteen was hopeful that the
Ancient Arrow site, and the other related
sites, would somehow accelerate the successful deployment of BST.
“It’s a simple matter of not wanting to alert
the Incunabula,
or the
NSA for that matter, to the technology prowess of
the Labyrinth Group.
If they knew what the Labyrinth Group had in terms of
technology, the planners would want to have detailed knowledge of
this technology, and
Fifteen doesn’t trust anyone outside his directors with this
knowledge.”
Sarah: “The part that I find bewildering in all of this is that
you have all of this knowledge about the universe,
extraterrestrials, global plans, and futuristic technologies, and
because you have this knowledge you’re essentially a prisoner now.”
Dr. Neruda: “I prefer conscientious defector.”
Sarah: “Whatever you call it, you've got to be a little
paranoid about the
remote viewing capabilities
of the ACIO
and their various technologies. How can you outrun the ACIO
or the Incunabula if they’re anywhere as powerful as
you say they are?”
Dr. Neruda: “I don’t know that I can evade them. I don’t feel
invincible or vulnerable. I’m simply operating on a moment-to-moment
basis, trying my best to transfer what I know so you can help me
publish this information.
“It’s never been done before – to defect from the ACIO.
I know
Fifteen
is searching for me, I can actually feel this.”
Sarah: “You mean you can feel when they use their remote
viewing technology?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “How often have you detected this since you left?”
Dr. Neruda: “I’d prefer not to say how many instances, but I’m
aware of each incident.”
Sarah: “Have you ever felt this during our interview?”
Dr. Neruda: “No. I would stop the interview if this were the
case.”
Sarah: “How would this help?”
Dr. Neruda: “I would prefer that they not hear our conversation
– even its general tone.”
Sarah: “Is this why we meet at the times we do?”
[Note: Our meetings were
always in a different place, late at night, and they were often
outdoors in non-descript places. This was the case in this fourth
interview.]
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “So how do you protect yourself and me?”
Dr. Neruda: “By meeting at odd hours and changing locations, at
least until you can get these interviews published on the Internet.”
Sarah: “How will this help you exactly? I know we’ve had this
discussion before, but I still don’t understand how this information
will help you if it gets into the public domain. It seems to me that
it would only anger them.”
Dr. Neruda: “They won’t be pleased at this disclosure – there’s
no doubt in this. However, it will not touch them in any significant
way because very few in power will believe what I share with you,
assuming they even read it.”
Sarah: “And why is this?”
Dr. Neruda: “They are totally consumed in their own agendas and
personal dramas. The information I’m disclosing defies
categorization. It ranges from poetry to physics, from esoteric
philosophy to the conspiratorial forces within MIC (the
Military Industrial Complex).
And because it defies categorization, it will be difficult to critique
and analyze. Most will consider it an interesting piece of
entertainment and leave it at that.
“Also, and more importantly, there’s a real feeling of acceptance
because intelligentsia and the political body of dissent don’t feel
equipped to stop what is presumed to be the inevitable. There are
those within both of these groups that have a general awareness of
what is emerging, but feel completely powerless to change it, and
there is a sense of fate that accompanies their silence.
“The ones that will find it most disturbing are the planners within
the Incunabula, and Fifteen himself, and not
because politicians or the media will be stepping into their arena,
but because they don’t want their secrets revealed to their
followers, or, in the case of
Fifteen, to the planners of the Incunabula or his
contacts at the NSA.”
Sarah: “So this is a purpose of these disclosures – to
infuriate the Incunabula planners and your boss?”
Dr. Neruda: “No. I don’t have any vested interest in making
their lives more difficult. It’s simply a result of my candid
disclosure that they will undergo the resulting pressures from their
constituents. This is the only thing that they’ll find unpleasant in
this whole disclosure. Once the information is out I will be less an
interest, other than for pure analysis.”
Sarah: “Pure analysis?”
Dr. Neruda: “What I mean is that the ACIO
– Fifteen in particular – will want to analyze what went wrong in
their security system to ensure that another defection will not take
place. There’s always the lurking fear that one successful defection
would encourage others. If they captured me, they would be able to
do a more thorough analysis on the psychological state,
precipitating factors, methods of evasion, and so on.”
Sarah: “You’ve talked before about the website. What is it that
you want to achieve with this?”
Dr. Neruda: “To simply make available what
the WingMakers have left behind. It will not threaten
the ACIO
or the Incunabula. It would be impossible to do so,
and they know that I understand this. I can only cause a temporary
embarrassment at best, but they can manage their way through that.
“As I’ve said from the beginning, I wanted to share this information
from the Ancient Arrow site and any subsequent sites
that I can.”
Sarah: “Any subsequent sites? Are you planning to find
additional sites?”
Dr. Neruda: “I believe there are seven sites on earth. I also
believe they can be found.”
Sarah: “How, exactly?”
Dr. Neruda: “I can’t disclose this.”
Sarah: “Have you found something within the Ancient Arrow
artifacts that gives you directions?”
Dr. Neruda: “Again, I don’t want to disclose the details of
this.”
Sarah: “Okay. Since we landed on the topic of the artifacts,
I’m reminded that in our last session you mentioned that you’d like
us to talk about the artifacts from the Ancient Arrow site.
This might be a good time to do so. Where would you like to begin?”
Dr. Neruda: “One of the most interesting artifacts was the
original homing device.”
Sarah: “This is the one found by the students at the University
of New Mexico?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes. It was enigmatic in all respects.”
Sarah: “Give me some examples.”
Dr. Neruda: “When it was first discovered, it was laying on top
of the ground as if it had been placed there. This was not a buried
object – as it should have been. It was left in the open, albeit in
a very non-descript section of northern New Mexico. When the
students handled it, it immediately induced vivid hallucinations,
which they couldn’t understand.”
Sarah: “What kind of hallucinations?”
Dr. Neruda: “They saw images of a cave-like structure. It later
turned out to be the Ancient Arrow site, but of course
they didn’t know what it was, and were afraid of it because they
linked the hallucinations to touching the object. So they wrapped
the object up in a jacket, stuck it in their backpack, and brought
it to a professor at the University, who examined it. We discovered
it within hours afterwards and dispatched a team to secure the
artifact.”
Sarah: “How exactly did you find out about the artifact? I
assume
the ACIO isn’t listed in the phone directory.”
Dr. Neruda: “There are certain keywords that are monitored in
e-mail and phone communications – especially within academia.
The ACIO simply taps into this technology that was developed by
the NSA, and can intercept e-mails and phone calls anywhere
in the world that relate to key words that it monitors.”
Sarah: “Like Alien or Extraterrestrial?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes. It actually works a little differently
because
the ACIO can define how many characters – in the case
of e-mail, or how much time – in the case of a phone conversation –
it wants to monitor on either side of the key word, and then
extracts entire sentences or even paragraphs in an effort to verify
context. It also correlates this to the e-mail’s IP address or phone
number to a credibility index. If all of these variables meet a
specified level, the communication event is relayed to analysts at
the ACIO who then perform more invasive techniques to ensure
context and content are matched and verified. All of these steps can
take place in a matter of an hour or two.”
Sarah: “And once you have this information verified you swoop
in and take possession of whatever you want?”
Dr. Neruda: “We have uncovered our most important discoveries
in this very manner since this system was activated, and the
ACIO operates differently depending on the situation. In
this case, operatives were dispatched to the professor’s office
posing as NSA agents in search of a missing
experimental weapon. It was believed by the professor to be in his
own best interest to release the object without delay since the
artifact was deemed to be imminently dangerous.”
Sarah: “I’m surprised. Didn’t he wonder how you knew he had
it?”
Dr. Neruda: “I’m sure he did, but there’s an element of shock
that the operatives make use of and they’re also highly skilled in
the use of mind control. I’m sure he was very cooperative. The
artifact was secured without any major objection by the professor or
the University.”
Sarah: “If I contacted the University of New Mexico would I be
able to confirm that this occurred?”
Dr. Neruda: “No. Every event of this kind is com-cleared, which
is an
ACIO term, meaning contracts are signed and all
communications are monitored for one year to ensure compliance.”
Sarah: “So they signed contracts and won’t talk because of a
piece of paper? That seems a bit outlandish.”
Dr. Neruda: “Do you know the penalty for treason?”
Sarah: “No, I mean I understand it’s not a good thing at all,
but I just find it a little strange that someone like a learned
professor would be intimidated by a signed contract. What about the
students that originally found it, are they also com-cleared?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “Okay, back to the artifact. What happened when you
retrieved it? What was your role specifically?”
Dr. Neruda: “I was asked to lead a team to assess the artifact
using our internal Sanitaire process.”
Sarah: “What’s this process do?”
Dr. Neruda: “Whenever an extraterrestrial artifact is
recovered, it’s initially put through the Sanitaire process,
or what we sometimes referred to as the ‘I-steps’,
which includes four stages of analysis.
-
The first is Inspection where we examine the object’s exterior and
map its exterior features in our computer.
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The next is Inference,
which is the stage where we take the results of stage
one and compute the probable applications of the object.
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The third stage is
Intervention,
which is related to any issues that pertain to the defense or
security mode of the object.
-
And the last stage
is
Invasion, which simply means we try to access the
inner workings of the object and find out how it operates.”
Sarah: “How
difficult was it to go through this four-step process with this
artifact?”
Dr. Neruda: “It was one of the most difficult we had ever
examined.”
Sarah: “Why?”
Dr. Neruda: ”It was designed for a very specific purpose and
unless it was used for this purpose, it was completely impenetrable
to our examinations.”
Sarah: “Didn’t the hallucinations affect you?”
Dr. Neruda: “We knew of the hallucinations reported by the
students who recovered the artifact, but we didn’t find any evidence
of this at all in our labs. We assumed the students were imagining
this due to the unusual nature of the artifact.
“It wasn’t until later that we discovered that the very subtle
markings on the exterior of the object where actually three
dimensional topographical maps. Once we overlaid these to real maps
of the area in which the object was found, we uncovered its real
purpose, which was a homing beacon.
“The hallucinations were site-specific, which is to say that there was
a proximity effect encoded within the artifact that caused it to
operate when two conditions were present. First, the object needed
to be within the geographical range of its map coordinates – as
etched on its casing – and two, it needed to be held in a human’s
hands in order for its guidance system to activate.”
Sarah: “And by guidance system you’re talking about the
hallucinations?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “And throughout this whole process you didn’t know where
this artifact came from, right?”
Dr. Neruda: “We knew it was extraterrestrial and we knew it was
situated.”
Sarah: “What do you mean by situated?”
Dr. Neruda: “That it was placed there to be found.”
Sarah: “Who do you think did this?”
Dr. Neruda: “Representatives of the Central Race.”
Sarah: “So what happened next after you realized it was a
homing beacon?”
Dr. Neruda: “A team was dispatched to the area and we
essentially followed the device to the interior structure of the Ancient Arrow site, which you’re already aware of.”
Sarah: “You said earlier that this artifact was the most
amazing of the entire find. If it was simply a homing device, then
the other artifacts I assume were fairly mundane.”
Dr. Neruda:
“To be more accurate, I can’t say it was the most
interesting since I defected before all the other artifacts were
sent through the I-Steps process, but it was a very
advanced technology and one of the most enigmatic we had come across
in quite a while.
“For example, once our team came within a certain distance of the
site, the artifact animated under some undetermined energy source
and scanned our group. It was literally reading our bodies and
minds, presumably to determine if we were suitable to discover the
site.”
Sarah: “And if you weren’t suitable?”
Dr. Neruda: “It was never discussed, but I think everyone
assumed it would probably have destroyed the site and all those
present at the time of the scanning. As it was, it only destroyed
itself.”
Sarah: “And you had no idea that it was capable of these feats
when you examined it?”
Dr. Neruda: “None whatsoever. Its casing was resistant to all
of our invasive analyses. It was a real source of frustration. In
fact, the artifact in the 23rd chamber was similarly vexing and
required significantly more resources to complete the I-Steps
process.”
Sarah: “Are these the only two artifacts from the site that
you’ve completed the I-Steps process?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes, prior to my defection. But there were
artifacts in every chamber, although the one discovered in chamber
twenty-three seemed the most important.”
Sarah: “And why was that?”
Dr. Neruda: “Remember that I described the interior of the site
as a helix-shaped tunnel system?”
Sarah: “Yes.”
Dr. Neruda: “The uppermost chamber was the 23rd chamber and in
it was the optical disc. While the other chambers held artifacts
similar in size and composition to the homing artifact, the artifact
in the twenty-third chamber was an optical disc that had a degree of
familiarity to it, and we considered it the key to the entire site.”
Sarah: “Because it was so different from the other artifacts?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes. It was also the highest chamber in the
formation and it was unique in its structure in that it was the only
chamber that was unfinished.”
Sarah: “I understand that all the information you showed me
came from the disc, and I know you’ve explained in some detail about
how you were able to decode the information, but you’ve alluded
tonight that something within this site points to the location of
six other sites. Can you elaborate on this at all?”
Dr. Neruda: “There’s nothing in this information that points to
the location of the other six sites. However, I believe there is,
encoded within this information, location markers to the next site.”
Sarah: “You mean the sites are supposed to be discovered in a
specific order one at a time?”
Dr. Neruda: “I believe so.”
Sarah: “Can you give me some hints as to where the next site
is, based on your analysis?”
Dr. Neruda: “If I gave you some information, you would need to
promise that this interview would not be released until I contacted
you and confirmed it was okay to do so. Would you agree with this?”
Sarah: “Certainly. I would honor anything you asked.”
Dr. Neruda: “There is an ancient temple just outside of the
city of Cusco, Peru called Sacsayhuaman. It is somewhere near this temple that
the next site will be found.”
(see the already discovered 2nd Site at Cusco
on March 2003)
Sarah: “And do you know where exactly, or are you simply saying
near to be evasive.”
Dr. Neruda: “No, I believe I know the exact coordinates, but
this detail I won’t disclose.”
Sarah: “This is your homeland isn’t it?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes, I grew up not too far from this area.”
Sarah: “Have you been to this site before?”
Dr. Neruda: “No, but I’m somewhat familiar with the city of
Cusco.”
Sarah: “This question may seem to come out of left field, and
I’d understand if you don’t want to answer it, but why do you think
the Central Race would design a defensive system upon earth
and then leave its discovery and activation to an organization like
the ACIO?”
Dr. Neruda: “I don’t think it was left in the hands of
the ACIO to find and activate these sites.”
Sarah: “You, then?”
Dr. Neruda: “I’m not able to say at this time.”
Sarah: “But you’re certainly an important part of this aren’t
you?”
Dr. Neruda: “I hope so.”
Sarah: “Okay, here’s another left curve.
“Why are five men –
the Incunabula planners – allowed to
control the destiny of humanity? I mean it’s only five men and we’re
five billion world citizens. No one elected these guys, and
virtually no one knows who these guys are, what their plans are,
capabilities, insights, or even if they truly have our best
interests at heart.
“After hearing your story tonight, I’m left with this sense of
indignation that five guys – no matter how well intentioned – are
deciding the fate of humanity and no one knows who they are!
“At least with politicians I can see them, hear them talk on
television, and get to know their unique personalities. There’s a
comfort in this. Whether I believe them all the time, well, that’s a
different story, but most of the ones I’ve voted for I think are
good and honorable people.”
Dr. Neruda: “When you ask the question, ‘allowed’ to run the
world, whom are you referring to?”
Sarah: “Doesn’t
the Central Race have something
to say about this? After all, as you mentioned the other night, all
of these seven ancient sites are part of a defensive weapon designed
to protect the earth. They also placed this homing device in clear
sight for the ACIO to uncover, which proves they’re
interacting with us in our present time. Wouldn’t the Central
Race need to allow these planners to have such authority
over humanity’s destiny?”
Dr. Neruda: “Let me try to answer your question this way.
“Presidents and senators, congressmen and governors, presidential
cabinets and military leaders, all ebb and flow, which is to say,
they have their influence for a period of years, and then they move
aside for others to take their place. Their agendas express
short-term power to pass new legislation, appoint new judges, or
amend laws. They are so focused on the politics of the near-term
that they lose sight of the importance of the long term.
“The Incunabula planners have the safety of permanence
and place their whole focus on the long-term objectives of humanity.
This is the nature of the Incunabula. They bring
continuity to the major issues of our time and the times to come for
the next three generations. They operate in this realm to ensure
they are not influenced by the short-term goals of special interest.
“As to your question about who ‘allows’ them to perform this function,
I’d have to say that no one does. No one has control or authority
over the planners, no more than anyone has control or authority over
Fifteen or the Labyrinth Group.”
Sarah: “What about the Central Race, though?
Doesn’t it stand to reason that they know about these planners and
watch them? I thought you said earlier that this unification force,
or God, advises them or something like that. Didn’t you make this
comment?”
Dr. Neruda: “What I meant is that
the Incunabula planners believe in this force that unifies all sentient life
throughout time and space. They believe very strongly in their
personal destinies or they would never have been placed in the
position of a planner. It is a very esteemed position despite its
anonymity.
“I have no doubt that the Central Race
is aware of the Incunabula planners and perhaps there is even some
influence or exchange. I don’t know. As I said before, my knowledge
of the planners is based exclusively on the reports from Fifteen.”
Sarah: “So it’s possible that Fifteen made all of this
up?”
Dr. Neruda: “You mean about the planners?”
Sarah: “Isn’t it possible?”
Dr. Neruda: “No. But it’s possible that his perception is not
completely accurate, though I doubt it. Fifteen’s ability to
grasp the character of someone is uncanny. He understands human
psychology better than those writing the textbooks. I think it would
be impossible for the planners to pull the wool over his eyes
without him being aware of it.”
Sarah: “But you said you never met these planners – only
Fifteen has…”
Dr. Neruda: “I understand your concern about the validity of
this. If I could give you names to check out, or some other form of
proof, I would. These organizations exist right up to the
Incunabula, and they can be traced and researched. Certainly many
journalists and researchers have done so regarding Freemasonry
or Skull and Bones,
and some with good success. But they never look at the
broader order and what organization manages these larger, more
abstract forces that make up the Triad of Power.”
Sarah: “But why?”
Dr. Neruda: “There’s nothing to drill into. There’s no research
traction. The organization is purposely abstract and amorphous.”
Sarah: “But leaders like Clinton and Blair,
aren’t they really pulling the strings? How do the planners within
the Incunabula have greater power than these leaders who are
signing new legislation into law or deciding whether we go to war or
not? It just doesn’t make sense.”
Dr. Neruda: “Everything within a democracy is consensus and the
game is designed to shift consensual opinion and fix it on a
specific galvanizing target. If there’s sufficient resonance with
the people, the shift can be manipulated. If there is not, the
political will is stymied. Leadership all over the world, unless
it’s in a country like North Korea, is bound to this certainty, and
nation’s leaders are generally well schooled to operate within this
reality.
“Yes, the world’s leaders appear to wield a great deal of power, but
it is really aggression – not power. True power is contained in the
acts of implementing a plan that is designed to enhance or optimize
the position of humanity relative to its environment, and to protect
it from formidable threats. The key word is humanity, which is an
analogue for the collective soul of every person on the planet. It
is not defined by ethnicity or geographical boundaries.
“World leaders apply aggression to achieve their agendas, which always
include a healthy dose of state greed and self-aggrandizement. The
concept of humanity is not a critical ingredient in their agenda.
Their power, if that’s what you want to call it, is a collective
will of a small inner circle of political zealots who want to secure
the benefits of their power for themselves first, their state
second, and their citizens third.”
Sarah: “That’s a pretty strong condemnation of our political
system, assuming I understand you correctly.”
Dr. Neruda: “Then I would say you understand me quite well.”
Sarah: “So our political leaders lack real power because
they’re absorbed in state agendas that exclude humanity as a whole?”
Dr. Neruda: “Please understand that I’m not condemning the
individual leaders so much as I am the provincial state system,
which has been engineered to excite nationalism. The individual
leaders assume the identity of the state system, which is largely
contrived around the single concept of patriotism.”
Sarah: “So now you’re saying patriotism is the problem? I’m
confused.”
Dr. Neruda: “Patriotism is the state catalyst. It is the means
by which citizens are stirred to a response. It is also the means by
which leaders are directed to respond to issues or threats. Under
this singular banner, wars have been prosecuted and aggression
veiled. It’s the ideal method that the state uses to enjoin its
citizens to support its leadership.
“I’m saying that the citizens’ identification with the state, or
patriotism, is the real stumbling block to effectively deal with the
issues of humanity. The individual leaders are simply pawns within
this structure that was engineered as a means to colonize the weaker
states.”
Sarah: “I think my brain can only handle one more question and
than I’d like to call it quits for tonight. Okay with you?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes, whatever you’d like.”
Sarah: “In this whole discussion tonight – most of which has
been centered on the Incunabula or, maybe more
appropriately I should call it the world power structure – I don’t
hear much about the spiritual implications. It really sounds oddly
impersonal and unspiritual, if that’s a word. Can you comment on
this?”
Dr. Neruda: “What is occurring in our world is a manifestation
of how a species migrates from statehood to species-hood. It is a
stage within the migration plan. Humans must move from the
patriotic, believe-what-I-am-told mentality, and elevate their
thinking to encompass and embrace the holistic community of
humankind. It will require enormous leadership capacity in order to
accomplish the conclusion of this migration, because the world’s
people will require a watershed event to erase its memory.”
Sarah: “Hold on a moment. What do you mean to erase its
memory?”
Dr. Neruda: “There’s a persistent memory in the psyche of
humans – particularly the weaker cultures that have been trampled on
by nations bent on colonization. These grievous indignations to the
weaker nations of the world have left a deep mark on their
collective memory. It’s vital that this memory be erased or purged
in order for humankind to become unified in its governance and
fundamental systems.
“This event can be orchestrated or it may occur through natural means,
but it’s generally agreed that an event must arise that galvanizes
the world’s people to unite, and in this process, purge the memory
of all peoples, but especially those who have been dealt with as
victims of colonization.”
Sarah: “I know I just said I was only good for one more
question, but as a journalist I can’t resist this line of thought.
Give me some examples of what kind of event you’re talking about?”
Dr. Neruda: “The most probable event with global implications
is an energy shortage.”
Sarah: “This is what you said earlier, but wouldn’t an energy
shortage only create more friction between the haves and have-nots?”
Dr. Neruda: “If it were managed properly, no. The kind of
energy shortage I’m talking about will have devastating effects on
every aspect of our world. All infrastructures would be impacted,
and the impact would be harsh and persistent. A global body to
regulate production and distribution of existing resources, coupled
to a well-managed search for alternative, renewable sources would
become a necessity of this condition.
“Still behind the scenes,
the Incunabula would help to
manage this event in such a way as to restore equality to the
world’s people. It would stand above the special interests and
dominant powers, and ensure fairness. This fairness would establish
its instrument of global leadership as the preeminent force for
globalization, and the memory of all would – metaphorically speaking
– be erased.”
Sarah: “Is this my answer for where’s the spiritual in all of
this?”
Dr. Neruda: “No. Admittedly I got sidetracked a bit.
“Also, I want to make the disclaimer that what I’m disclosing is the
broad concept, and anyone reading these disclosures in the future, I
hope you will bear this in mind. I’m not able, owing to the
circumstances and time constraint, to provide a detailed rendering.
However, these details do exist and when one has the luxury of
studying them, all of what I am disclosing will appear more
plausible.
“Now, regarding your question. The spiritual element is very strongly
integrated to the whole theme of tonight’s discussion. If I were to
sum it up, I’d call it the human migration plan. Humankind is
evolving on one level, and migrating on another.
“In the instance of its evolution, humans are becoming more advanced
technologically speaking with the ability to multi-process more
sophisticated visual, aural, and intellectual data. In other words,
the brain system is changing to become more holistic in how it
processes information. Computers are a big part of this evolutionary
track.
“Humans are also migrating from separation by means of statehood, to
unification through globalism. This is a completely different but
related track. Humankind is coalescing, even though it may not seem
like it because we continue to have wars and conflicts throughout
the globe. It’s happening in micro-steps.”
Sarah: “And the spiritual?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes, thank you. The spiritual is that these two
tracks are leading humankind to something that the WingMakers
call
the Grand Portal. It is the connection to our human
soul, which has been broken into hundreds of pieces and strewn
across the globe in the form of different colors, cultures,
languages, and geographies, and is now in the process of an
unalterable reunion.
“This is the spiritual aspect, and it touches everything in our lives.
It penetrates every single atom of our collective existence, imbuing
it with a destiny that is yet unseen.”
Sarah: “You just mentioned
the Grand Portal. What
is it?”
Dr. Neruda: “In the glossary found on the optical disc, it
talks about this—”
Sarah: “Just so you know I did read the section of the glossary
you gave me, but only once, and it didn’t stick with me too well.
Can you explain it again, please?”
Dr. Neruda:
“The Grand Portal, according to the WingMakers, is
the indisputable, scientific
discovery of the human soul.”
Sarah: “Sort of like
LERM isn’t it?”
Dr. Neruda: “Similar, but
LERM is more the
demonstration that the unification force exists and interpenetrates
all dimensions of existence. It is the proof of spirit, if you will.
The human soul remains elusive to our technology.”
Sarah: “But you’re not saying that soul and spirit are
different, are you?, because I was always taught that soul and
spirit are essentially one and the same thing.”
Dr. Neruda: “Soul, or what
the WingMakers refer
to as
the Wholeness Navigator, is the replica of First
Source (God), only compartmentalized into a singular,
immortal, and wholly individualized personality. Spirit is more of
the connecting force that unifies the individual soul with First Source and all other souls.”
Sarah: “I’m not sure I followed that description, but it may be
that my mind is saturated right now and nothing you said would get
through my thick skull. Anyway, what will be gained by having this
discovery… the
Grand Portal?”
Dr. Neruda: “Everything that keeps us separate – locked in
statehood and provincial concerns – will be obliterated when this
undeniable proof is obtained.”
Sarah: “Why would the basic nature of man, which has taken
hundreds of thousands of years to form, suddenly change when science
steps forward and announces that it has proven the existence of
soul? It doesn’t seem plausible to me.”
Dr. Neruda: “According to
the WingMakers this is
the evolutionary path of the human species, and the discovery of
the Grand Portal is the culmination of a global species. It
creates the conditions whereby the things that separate us are
stripped away, whether they’re color, race, form, geography,
religion, or anything else. We find ourselves staring into the lens
of science and we see that all humans are composed of the same inner
substance – whatever you choose to call it – and it is this that
truly defines us and our capabilities.”
Sarah: “So everything we’ve been talking about tonight… the
globalization of humankind culminates in this discovery? Is that
what you’re saying?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “And the Incunabula planners
will be there, waiting to guide us. Is that also part of the plan?”
Dr. Neruda: “I don’t know if there’ll be a role for
the
Incunabula in this new world. Perhaps, perhaps not.”
Sarah: “If an individual would experience this
Grand
Portal
and establish for themselves that they are composed of a
soul – an immortal soul – wouldn’t it profoundly change the way in
which they live? I mean I’m just starting to think of the
ramifications, and they’re kind of scary.
“For example, what if someone saw that they don’t really die. Wouldn’t
that change their attitude towards death in such a way that they no
longer fear it? Perhaps people would become more reckless and
daring, more dangerous.”
Dr. Neruda: “Some may. There will undoubtedly be many different
reactions, and I don’t pretend to know how it will all be managed.”
Sarah: “Another thing I find interesting in this whole thing is
the role of science versus religion. It seems that religion has
tried its best to define soul and failed. Whatever its definitions,
they seem to be based entirely on faith, and there’s no real
consistency in the model. This Grand Portal is a
scientific discovery, not a religious one. Correct?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “So science will get a try. What if they fail as well?
Maybe there’s something so elusive, so hidden in all of this that
science does no better. I mean I know some people who can be shown
something and they will deny it with all their strength. How do you
convince someone who doesn’t want to see it?”
Dr. Neruda: “You can think of
the Grand Portal as
the interface for the consciousness of vertical time. This
interface will be discovered sometime in the 21st century. I don’t
know all the details. I don’t know how it will impact on the
individual. You may be right; some will accept it and some will not.
I only know it is part of the destiny that humankind is led to
achieve.”
Sarah: “According to the WingMakers?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “Did you know about this prior to reading the glossary?”
Dr. Neruda: “Do you mean did I know about the existence of
the Grand Portal?”
Sarah: “Yes, that, or simply the technology to prove the
existence of the human soul. Was it being planned or worked on by
the ACIO?”
Dr. Neruda: “No.”
Sarah: “Are there any other organizations working on this proof
– even now?”
Dr. Neruda: “Not that I know of.”
Sarah: “If no one’s trying to discover this
Grand Portal,
who will?”
Dr. Neruda: “That’s why I want to get these materials out.
The WingMakers’ materials are designed to activate those
souls that are incarnating who will play active roles in the
discovery and creation of the Grand Portal—”
Sarah: “Are you saying that souls are incarnating specifically
for this purpose?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes. There are very advanced souls who are
incarnating in the next three generations who will design, develop,
and employ the
Grand Portal. This is the central purpose of the
WingMakers’ materials stored within these seven sites.”
Sarah: “I thought you said they were a defensive weapon?”
Dr. Neruda: “That’s one role, but there is another as well. And
I believe it has to do with the artistic elements. They are encoded.
They are catalysts of consciousness. I’m convinced of this based on
my own experience.”
Sarah: “I’ve read many of these writings, and listened to the
music. I like it, but it hasn’t catalyzed anything in me. I
certainly don’t feel like I want to help design or build
the
Grand Portal, not that I have the mental capacity to contribute anything of
value.”
Dr. Neruda: “Perhaps your role is different.”
Sarah: “Or I have no role at all. Maybe you have to have the
qualities inside you before the materials can activate anything. And
in my case, I have this feeling that there’s nothing there to
awaken.
“Well, as much as I’m tempted to dive into more information about this
Grand Portal, I think my mind has reached its full
ration for the night. Let’s plan to talk more about the Grand
Portal in our next interview. Okay?”
Dr. Neruda: “That’s fine with me.”
Sarah: “Anything you want to say before we sign off?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.
“If you, the reader, wonder how the information I’ve presented about
the Incunabula relates to all of the various conspiracy
theories about the New World Order, intelligence community,
Illuminati, Freemasonry, and all the other supposed clandestine
organizations of the world, I would respectfully ask you to suspend
your prior notions about the motivations of these various groups.
“These are not evil-minded organizations regardless of how some
portray them. Their members have children and families just like
you, and they take pleasure and disgust in the very same things as
you do. They are humans with all the same weaknesses for vice and
greed, but they also have a strong energy to improve the world, it
is simply that their definition of what a better world is may differ
from yours.
“If your interest is to conjure an antagonist for your amusement,
that’s your prerogative. But the issues I’ve related tonight are too
serious to be amusing. They are deserving of your attention and
discernment. Do your own investigation into the energy supplies of
our world. You may come up with different numbers than what I
mentioned, but only because the technology of the ACIO
is more advanced than the petroleum industry. Nonetheless, you’ll
see confirmation of this general condition.
“Look at the current events of your time whenever you read this
interview. You’ll see how this plan is progressing. It may seem to
take detours, but the general course is what I’ve described. It is
moving in this direction not out of accident or because of the whims
of the world’s leaders, you can be sure. It is all part of the
orchestration of events that are played out according to the
well-designed blueprints of the Incunabula planners.
“You may feel a certain anguish that you’re being led to a future not
of your choosing, but if you want to have influence, then you need
to be educated and aware of the real forces that are defining your
future. This is a free-will universe. There is no hierarchy of
angelic beings guiding the destiny of earth. There is no ascended
master who dictates the pathway to enlightenment for humanity or the
individual.
“If you truly want to express and apply your freewill, make it a
personal religion to know the facts. Learn how to look behind the
stories that are being sold by the media and politicians, and form
your own conclusions. Keep your doubt intact about everything you’re
told from the political stage, especially when you’re induced to be
patriotic. It is one of the clearest signals to be suspicious of
what you’re being told.
“When enemies are created, especially new ones, be wary of the
motivations of those who claim them to be enemies. Investigate the
facts. Look under all the rocks and verify your evidence. Each of
you must become investigators and learn the art of research and
analytical study if you want to feel more a part of the movement to
globalization.
“Your insights and understandings may not change humanity’s course one
millimeter, but it will change your ability to feel a part of this
migration and have a sense of where humanity is moving and why.
“And to those who prefer to strike out on their own path and believe
that globalism is pure folly, I can only explain to you that it must
happen. It is the outward expression of who we are and it is the
natural progression of our species to unify around the inner essence
of our identity, instead of the outer façade of our particular
nation or religious belief.
“I believe everyone understands this to varying degrees, but it is the
methods of this unification that concern people. And I share this
concern. If we’re collectively informed about the plan and
understand the end-goal is something that holds a great promise for
humanity, we can pursue this goal with greater velocity and with
added confidence that the methods will be in everyone’s best
interest. This must be our goal.
“And finally, many of you may feel that globalization is a concept of
the New World Order and therefore dismiss it as a
movement borne out of greed and the lust for power. Yes, there are
always those who will take advantage of this movement to achieve
personal gain, but the reason to become a unified people on this
earth is far greater than the personal gains of a few. Remember this
as you read your conspiracy stories.
“I’m finished, Sarah. Thank you for your indulgence.”
Sarah: “Thank you for your comments.”